Comments on: Classroom experiences: Dealing with plagiarism http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/classroom-experiences-dealing-with-plagiarism/ travel culture worldwide Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:30:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ramla Akhtar http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/classroom-experiences-dealing-with-plagiarism/#comment-96962 Ramla Akhtar Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:55:00 +0000 http://matadorabroad.com/?p=4156#comment-96962 True. Thinking for one's self is not a virtue in this society. The unstated assumption is that all ideas have been stated already by someone in authority, and those ideas must be found out, learned, and applied. This isn't even a very structured code. It's not as though people must follow the Tao Te Ching. It's just a vague notion that nevertheless seems to rule the mind.  True. Thinking for one’s self is not a virtue in this society. The unstated assumption is that all ideas have been stated already by someone in authority, and those ideas must be found out, learned, and applied. This isn’t even a very structured code. It’s not as though people must follow the Tao Te Ching. It’s just a vague notion that nevertheless seems to rule the mind. 

]]> By: Ramla Akhtar http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/classroom-experiences-dealing-with-plagiarism/#comment-96963 Ramla Akhtar Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:55:00 +0000 http://matadorabroad.com/?p=4156#comment-96963 True. Thinking for one's self is not a virtue in this society. The unstated assumption is that all ideas have been stated already by someone in authority, and those ideas must be found out, learned, and applied. This isn't even a very structured code. It's not as though people must follow the Tao Te Ching. It's just a vague notion that nevertheless seems to rule the mind.  True. Thinking for one’s self is not a virtue in this society. The unstated assumption is that all ideas have been stated already by someone in authority, and those ideas must be found out, learned, and applied. This isn’t even a very structured code. It’s not as though people must follow the Tao Te Ching. It’s just a vague notion that nevertheless seems to rule the mind. 

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]]> By: Heather Carreiro http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/classroom-experiences-dealing-with-plagiarism/#comment-41395 Heather Carreiro Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:56:50 +0000 http://matadorabroad.com/?p=4156#comment-41395 Yes, the plagiarism is definitely not limited to English. My husband teaches Physics and has encountered the same problem as you. When he first arrived in the school in Pakistan, he googled all the Bio/Chem/Physics projects that had been hung up on the wall by the previous teachers to showcase student work. As you can guess, 95% of what was there was direct copy-paste from the web. Definitions for things and everything. Yes, the plagiarism is definitely not limited to English. My husband teaches Physics and has encountered the same problem as you. When he first arrived in the school in Pakistan, he googled all the Bio/Chem/Physics projects that had been hung up on the wall by the previous teachers to showcase student work. As you can guess, 95% of what was there was direct copy-paste from the web. Definitions for things and everything.

]]> By: Viviane http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/classroom-experiences-dealing-with-plagiarism/#comment-41394 Viviane Thu, 30 Dec 2010 05:19:28 +0000 http://matadorabroad.com/?p=4156#comment-41394 I don't teach English, and I don't teach abroad, but I run into problems concerning plagiarism and cultural perceptions...all the time. I teach biology and other sciences in a private high school with a student body comprised largely of recent immigrants or children of immigrants, so many of the students, although bright, have sub par English skills. I receive homework and projects that are blatantly ripped off from other sources,and- like in the article- students will offer to redo the work while insisting that the work they originally handed in was their own as well! At one point I assigned a project in which they had to create a 3D representation of the cell, label 8 structures, and define them. I googled all the definitions- and came up with around six websites that accounted for all the projects except 3- this, after I had told them again and again that they would fail if they copied. I typed up a paper with all the links and put an A+ on it, showed it to the students, told them the websites did a great job, and that I averaged their physical project grade- whatever it was- with their definitions grade- a 0. I don’t teach English, and I don’t teach abroad, but I run into problems concerning plagiarism and cultural perceptions…all the time. I teach biology and other sciences in a private high school with a student body comprised largely of recent immigrants or children of immigrants, so many of the students, although bright, have sub par English skills. I receive homework and projects that are blatantly ripped off from other sources,and- like in the article- students will offer to redo the work while insisting that the work they originally handed in was their own as well! At one point I assigned a project in which they had to create a 3D representation of the cell, label 8 structures, and define them. I googled all the definitions- and came up with around six websites that accounted for all the projects except 3- this, after I had told them again and again that they would fail if they copied. I typed up a paper with all the links and put an A+ on it, showed it to the students, told them the websites did a great job, and that I averaged their physical project grade- whatever it was- with their definitions grade- a 0.

]]> By: Heather Carreiro http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/classroom-experiences-dealing-with-plagiarism/#comment-41181 Heather Carreiro Fri, 10 Dec 2010 17:47:59 +0000 http://matadorabroad.com/?p=4156#comment-41181 Maybe "it me" boy should link up with glitter girl. The good thing is though that it seems *most* of your students are getting it! Maybe “it me” boy should link up with glitter girl.

The good thing is though that it seems *most* of your students are getting it!

]]> By: MaryAnne http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/classroom-experiences-dealing-with-plagiarism/#comment-41180 MaryAnne Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:03:40 +0000 http://matadorabroad.com/?p=4156#comment-41180 A small update (I think I was the first commenter above, ages ago). I'm still teaching in the same Australian/Shanghainese uni program and am working with my 3rd year's worth of kids. I'm drilling the concept of referencing/citations/plagiarism daily. So far so good--- except every so often I get something like this: their semester writing project was to design, write and put together a magazine in groups, along with a marketing plan for how they planned to sell it. All images had to be acknowledged with more than just 'from baidu.com' (the Chinese Google) and any outside info had to be cited. Everyone had to contribute at least 200 words to their group's magazine. I checked them all one week before they were due, to make sure nothing devastating was coming my way. Most were fine (except for all the 'baidu.com' citations) except one boy's article: stolen straight from the LA Times. With the LA Times banner. And byline. And self referencing. And the boy insisted it was his. And he defended himself to the end, even to the admin as they were confronting him about it. He never backed down- he just kept insisting 'it me! it me!'... which was the extent of his English. *Sigh* A small update (I think I was the first commenter above, ages ago). I’m still teaching in the same Australian/Shanghainese uni program and am working with my 3rd year’s worth of kids. I’m drilling the concept of referencing/citations/plagiarism daily. So far so good— except every so often I get something like this: their semester writing project was to design, write and put together a magazine in groups, along with a marketing plan for how they planned to sell it. All images had to be acknowledged with more than just ‘from baidu.com’ (the Chinese Google) and any outside info had to be cited. Everyone had to contribute at least 200 words to their group’s magazine. I checked them all one week before they were due, to make sure nothing devastating was coming my way. Most were fine (except for all the ‘baidu.com’ citations) except one boy’s article: stolen straight from the LA Times. With the LA Times banner. And byline. And self referencing. And the boy insisted it was his. And he defended himself to the end, even to the admin as they were confronting him about it. He never backed down- he just kept insisting ‘it me! it me!’… which was the extent of his English.

*Sigh*

]]> By: Simim http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/classroom-experiences-dealing-with-plagiarism/#comment-40869 Simim Tue, 07 Dec 2010 21:26:45 +0000 http://matadorabroad.com/?p=4156#comment-40869 That is one of the best ways I've ever heard to get something through someone's head. I don't necessarily promote teaching with fear, but hell, if nothing else is working... that probably will!! That is one of the best ways I’ve ever heard to get something through someone’s head. I don’t necessarily promote teaching with fear, but hell, if nothing else is working… that probably will!!

]]> By: Donna Morang http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/classroom-experiences-dealing-with-plagiarism/#comment-40868 Donna Morang Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:02:46 +0000 http://matadorabroad.com/?p=4156#comment-40868 While I was teaching in Vietnam this was a huge problem. Like your students, they would not admit to copying anything. I finally turned it around, instead of asking if they wrote it, I asked if they thought it or had read it somewhere. I was continuously in their face about it. One day I explained that when they went to the US ( where they were all going there to study aviation) that they would be expelled and sent home if they were ever caught. And the teachers in the US had a way of checking for plagiarism. There was an immediate halt to it, because it would bring such great shame to their families. If you can't beat it out of them, scare the hell out of them! While I was teaching in Vietnam this was a huge problem. Like your students, they would not admit to copying anything. I finally turned it around, instead of asking if they wrote it, I asked if they thought it or had read it somewhere.
I was continuously in their face about it. One day I explained that when they went to the US ( where they were all going there to study aviation) that they would be expelled and sent home if they were ever caught. And the teachers in the US had a way of checking for plagiarism. There was an immediate halt to it, because it would bring such great shame to their families.
If you can’t beat it out of them, scare the hell out of them!

]]> By: 20 Obsolete English Words that Should Make a Comeback http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/classroom-experiences-dealing-with-plagiarism/#comment-40385 20 Obsolete English Words that Should Make a Comeback Mon, 08 Nov 2010 19:25:51 +0000 http://matadorabroad.com/?p=4156#comment-40385 [...] I read the definition I immediately thought of copy-pasting. Any English teacher can picture what a corraded assignment looks [...] [...] I read the definition I immediately thought of copy-pasting. Any English teacher can picture what a corraded assignment looks [...]

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