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	<title>Comments on: Luxury Cruise Ships Still Stopping At Haiti&#8217;s Private Beaches</title>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/luxury-cruises-still-stopping-at-haitis-private-beaches/#comment-37230</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here here. I promise you that the cruise line will loose money because they are continuing to make stops on the island, as people will not want to lay out on a beach that is so close to so many dying people. I support the cruise line in this decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here here. I promise you that the cruise line will loose money because they are continuing to make stops on the island, as people will not want to lay out on a beach that is so close to so many dying people. I support the cruise line in this decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Traveling_mike</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/luxury-cruises-still-stopping-at-haitis-private-beaches/#comment-37226</link>
		<dc:creator>Traveling_mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting read, but the fact remains that Haitians need to work.  Any issues you have with ships should be with the ships and how they operate in general, not so much this one incident.  I worked onboard for 3 years and feel that this call in Haiti is the least of what cruise lines should be criticized for.  

Haitians need the work which ships provide and every bit helps.  Perhaps if over the years more ships had port calls in Haiti then they would have had the infrastructure built up, thus minimizing damage.  

I completely agree that after the Tsunami, the Thais had the right attitude.  They embraced the assets they had(Tourism) and used it to rebuild.  Haiti should do the same even if it does include a vessel that the readers of matador don&#039;t approve of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very interesting read, but the fact remains that Haitians need to work.  Any issues you have with ships should be with the ships and how they operate in general, not so much this one incident.  I worked onboard for 3 years and feel that this call in Haiti is the least of what cruise lines should be criticized for.  </p>
<p>Haitians need the work which ships provide and every bit helps.  Perhaps if over the years more ships had port calls in Haiti then they would have had the infrastructure built up, thus minimizing damage.  </p>
<p>I completely agree that after the Tsunami, the Thais had the right attitude.  They embraced the assets they had(Tourism) and used it to rebuild.  Haiti should do the same even if it does include a vessel that the readers of matador don&#8217;t approve of.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ethics Verdict on Haitian Luxury Cruises &#171; Ethics Alarms</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ethics Verdict on Haitian Luxury Cruises &#171; Ethics Alarms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be just miles away. “What sort of message is Royal Caribbean sending to the tourism industry,” one indignant columnist on a travel website wrote, “when it says that docking a ship in Haiti following an unspeakable [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be just miles away. “What sort of message is Royal Caribbean sending to the tourism industry,” one indignant columnist on a travel website wrote, “when it says that docking a ship in Haiti following an unspeakable [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Carreiro</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/luxury-cruises-still-stopping-at-haitis-private-beaches/#comment-37125</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather Carreiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m torn on this one. Royal Caribbean changing its route would definitely affect those 500-odd Haitians who are employed at Labadee in a negative way. It seems the root of the problem - the grotesqueness of this situation - goes a lot deeper and started a lot earlier than the recent earthquake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m torn on this one. Royal Caribbean changing its route would definitely affect those 500-odd Haitians who are employed at Labadee in a negative way. It seems the root of the problem &#8211; the grotesqueness of this situation &#8211; goes a lot deeper and started a lot earlier than the recent earthquake.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How exactly would the cruise ships going elsewhere help the people of Haiti? Even given the fact that the cruise lines underpay Hatian workers to a large extent, opportunity for employment (much less gainful employment) is an extreme rarity in the country and one that I am sure the workers at these luxury resorts are grateful for. If tourism stopped entirely during this crisis the only thing that would happen is a rise in unemployment and possibly a large shift towards the even more exploitative textile industry that is slowly taking over what remains of Haiti&#039;s economy.
   It is very easy to be outraged at this from 500 miles away, and on its face it does seem insensitive and inappropriate, but the people of Haiti have been left with no alternatives by centuries of mismanagement and outside interference in their affairs. For the time being, at least, tourism is the best (and perhaps only) hope for the development of Haiti into some semblance of prosperity. To deny them that chance at this time, simply put, would be even more disastrous in the long-term than this earthquake has been in the short.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How exactly would the cruise ships going elsewhere help the people of Haiti? Even given the fact that the cruise lines underpay Hatian workers to a large extent, opportunity for employment (much less gainful employment) is an extreme rarity in the country and one that I am sure the workers at these luxury resorts are grateful for. If tourism stopped entirely during this crisis the only thing that would happen is a rise in unemployment and possibly a large shift towards the even more exploitative textile industry that is slowly taking over what remains of Haiti&#8217;s economy.<br />
   It is very easy to be outraged at this from 500 miles away, and on its face it does seem insensitive and inappropriate, but the people of Haiti have been left with no alternatives by centuries of mismanagement and outside interference in their affairs. For the time being, at least, tourism is the best (and perhaps only) hope for the development of Haiti into some semblance of prosperity. To deny them that chance at this time, simply put, would be even more disastrous in the long-term than this earthquake has been in the short.</p>
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		<title>By: EWCRT: Preparation &#171; MusicTravelWrite</title>
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		<dc:creator>EWCRT: Preparation &#171; MusicTravelWrite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 05:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] drumset in a show band, hanging out in Mexico and various islands (including Labadee, Haiti, which is highly controversial and which I have very mixed feelings about, but that&#8217;s a post for another [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] drumset in a show band, hanging out in Mexico and various islands (including Labadee, Haiti, which is highly controversial and which I have very mixed feelings about, but that&#8217;s a post for another [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Hubbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Hubbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disgusting. The absolute worst in human nature.

There may be a time to bring money into the local economy via tourism (though hopefully without exploiting the natives as has so often been the case).

But even if these cruise lines do contribute money, it is a drop int he bucket compared to what they have made over the years exploiting the locals with their neo-colonialist tours.

I am sure that the tourists in those ships would not be pleased if &quot;pleasure-liners,&quot; which are my idea of pure hell, often being often populated by burmuda-shorts-wearing-chicken-legged-drones, were docked outside of an area of California if and when the &quot;big one&quot; hits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disgusting. The absolute worst in human nature.</p>
<p>There may be a time to bring money into the local economy via tourism (though hopefully without exploiting the natives as has so often been the case).</p>
<p>But even if these cruise lines do contribute money, it is a drop int he bucket compared to what they have made over the years exploiting the locals with their neo-colonialist tours.</p>
<p>I am sure that the tourists in those ships would not be pleased if &#8220;pleasure-liners,&#8221; which are my idea of pure hell, often being often populated by burmuda-shorts-wearing-chicken-legged-drones, were docked outside of an area of California if and when the &#8220;big one&#8221; hits.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have thought about this one and initially I thought it was terrible and it still is a bad PR move for the cruise industry in many ways, but I may have to take the other side on this.  I don&#039;t how it would help Haiti for the ship to go elsewhere, but it does help those 500 workers and thus the local economy to a certain extent.  

If people are still going to take vacations then what is the difference between stopping in Puerto Rico or a part of Haiti unaffected by the earthquake?  Should all cruise ships pause their service in the caribbean and help out the victims? I think that would be great personally, but if the cruises are going to continue then I think Haiti is just as good, if not a better place for them to stop than elsewhere. 

After the Tsunami, Thai&#039;s were begging for tourists to return, and in visiting the area not two years later it was very hard to tell a disaster like that had occurred because the tourism industry helped build things up so quickly.  I agree that it seems wrong and insensitive, but unless the ship was going to be serving some humanitarian purpose and was taken away for tourists, then its better that they stopped in Haiti as opposed to causing more economic harm to those Haitians who are able and willing to work.  

As far as the private beach situation, at some level, the local or national government had to sign off on that.  So good or bad its an issue for domestic politics.  Having myself grown up in a community dominated by a luxury resort with a private beach I understand the dilemma.  I have experienced being thrown out by security many times(it was a great beach) but the resort also employed many of my friend&#039;s parents and was a huge part of our local economy. 

All that said, I do agree with criticism of the cruise ship industry and the types of &#039;shore&#039; experiences they create and perhaps in the long run people will take closer looks at the effects of that type of tourism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have thought about this one and initially I thought it was terrible and it still is a bad PR move for the cruise industry in many ways, but I may have to take the other side on this.  I don&#8217;t how it would help Haiti for the ship to go elsewhere, but it does help those 500 workers and thus the local economy to a certain extent.  </p>
<p>If people are still going to take vacations then what is the difference between stopping in Puerto Rico or a part of Haiti unaffected by the earthquake?  Should all cruise ships pause their service in the caribbean and help out the victims? I think that would be great personally, but if the cruises are going to continue then I think Haiti is just as good, if not a better place for them to stop than elsewhere. </p>
<p>After the Tsunami, Thai&#8217;s were begging for tourists to return, and in visiting the area not two years later it was very hard to tell a disaster like that had occurred because the tourism industry helped build things up so quickly.  I agree that it seems wrong and insensitive, but unless the ship was going to be serving some humanitarian purpose and was taken away for tourists, then its better that they stopped in Haiti as opposed to causing more economic harm to those Haitians who are able and willing to work.  </p>
<p>As far as the private beach situation, at some level, the local or national government had to sign off on that.  So good or bad its an issue for domestic politics.  Having myself grown up in a community dominated by a luxury resort with a private beach I understand the dilemma.  I have experienced being thrown out by security many times(it was a great beach) but the resort also employed many of my friend&#8217;s parents and was a huge part of our local economy. </p>
<p>All that said, I do agree with criticism of the cruise ship industry and the types of &#8216;shore&#8217; experiences they create and perhaps in the long run people will take closer looks at the effects of that type of tourism.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, thank you Sarah for exposing this obscenity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, thank you Sarah for exposing this obscenity.</p>
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		<title>By: Vi @ Travel Tips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vi @ Travel Tips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 02:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you can blame just cruise industry about this. What about people you booked to these cruises and care only about that somebody can take their food:
&quot;The Guardian noted that people booked on ships scheduled to stop at Labadee are worried about desperate locals climbing fences in search of food&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you can blame just cruise industry about this. What about people you booked to these cruises and care only about that somebody can take their food:<br />
&#8220;The Guardian noted that people booked on ships scheduled to stop at Labadee are worried about desperate locals climbing fences in search of food&#8221;</p>
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