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	<title>Comments on: Does a &#8220;Make Wealth History&#8221; campaign make any sense?</title>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Williams</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/change/does-a-make-wealth-history-campaign-make-any-sense/#comment-47965</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I&#039;m actually running this exact campaign... 

Yes, a Make Wealth History campaign does makes sense - with a couple of caveats. It really comes down to one thing: everyone wants to live like Americans or Europeans, but the earth isn&#039;t big enough to support that level of consumption, even for us, let alone the whole world. For their to be any hope of solving poverty in developing countries, those of us who are richer need to reduce our consumption to &#039;make room&#039;. 

The great thing is that our high consumption lifestyles don&#039;t actually make us happy, so we can reduce our environmental impact without reducing our well being. We just need to redefine wealth beyond money and stuff, and remember that what really makes us happy is good relationships, community, and rewarding work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;m actually running this exact campaign&#8230; </p>
<p>Yes, a Make Wealth History campaign does makes sense &#8211; with a couple of caveats. It really comes down to one thing: everyone wants to live like Americans or Europeans, but the earth isn&#8217;t big enough to support that level of consumption, even for us, let alone the whole world. For their to be any hope of solving poverty in developing countries, those of us who are richer need to reduce our consumption to &#8216;make room&#8217;. </p>
<p>The great thing is that our high consumption lifestyles don&#8217;t actually make us happy, so we can reduce our environmental impact without reducing our well being. We just need to redefine wealth beyond money and stuff, and remember that what really makes us happy is good relationships, community, and rewarding work.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/change/does-a-make-wealth-history-campaign-make-any-sense/#comment-47704</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed with everyone. His argument seems naive and hypocritical. Great point Neha that many developing countries are using technology for positive change. I&#039;m not adverse to European socialism, but &quot;Make Wealth History&quot; seems an attention-grabbing tactic for, dare I say, more money. Being mindful of the choices we make with our wealth and lessening our impact is positive change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed with everyone. His argument seems naive and hypocritical. Great point Neha that many developing countries are using technology for positive change. I&#8217;m not adverse to European socialism, but &#8220;Make Wealth History&#8221; seems an attention-grabbing tactic for, dare I say, more money. Being mindful of the choices we make with our wealth and lessening our impact is positive change.</p>
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		<title>By: neha</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/change/does-a-make-wealth-history-campaign-make-any-sense/#comment-47809</link>
		<dc:creator>neha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the poverty - technology correlation is a very simplistic way of looking at the problems of poverty. In many developing countries technology is being used as a tool for social and economic change. Yes, curbing excess is always a positive step but how you use the available technology and resources to facilitate change might, in my books, make for a better world than shunning a particular lifestyle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the poverty &#8211; technology correlation is a very simplistic way of looking at the problems of poverty. In many developing countries technology is being used as a tool for social and economic change. Yes, curbing excess is always a positive step but how you use the available technology and resources to facilitate change might, in my books, make for a better world than shunning a particular lifestyle.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It makes perfect rational sense to argue that the planet could be healed if we all lived more modestly.&quot;

I completely agree with the idea of that statement.  Not to say that the world would become perfect, but certainly a lot of good would arise from people living within their means.

However, he mainly focuses on technology and current society.  I&#039;m not sure exactly what he&#039;s getting at though.  There has always been poverty and technology didn&#039;t necessarily bring upon economical class distinctions.

I think Julie noted the complete irony of the entire anti-technology bit being written on a blog.  The author even notes: &quot;It is curious that the computer has become an almost indispensable piece of equipment, even for the most determined downshifter.&quot;

oops.  Technology is here to stay.  Sure we can become addicted to it and live on facebook, but we can also use it to communicated effectively and collaborate to solve problems in a way no other generation has before.  I&#039;d rather do the second option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It makes perfect rational sense to argue that the planet could be healed if we all lived more modestly.&#8221;</p>
<p>I completely agree with the idea of that statement.  Not to say that the world would become perfect, but certainly a lot of good would arise from people living within their means.</p>
<p>However, he mainly focuses on technology and current society.  I&#8217;m not sure exactly what he&#8217;s getting at though.  There has always been poverty and technology didn&#8217;t necessarily bring upon economical class distinctions.</p>
<p>I think Julie noted the complete irony of the entire anti-technology bit being written on a blog.  The author even notes: &#8220;It is curious that the computer has become an almost indispensable piece of equipment, even for the most determined downshifter.&#8221;</p>
<p>oops.  Technology is here to stay.  Sure we can become addicted to it and live on facebook, but we can also use it to communicated effectively and collaborate to solve problems in a way no other generation has before.  I&#8217;d rather do the second option.</p>
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		<title>By: Abbie</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/change/does-a-make-wealth-history-campaign-make-any-sense/#comment-47800</link>
		<dc:creator>Abbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether you agree or disagree with him, I think the one thing we can all agree on is that reducing our consumption and impact could positively benefit everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether you agree or disagree with him, I think the one thing we can all agree on is that reducing our consumption and impact could positively benefit everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Amen</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/change/does-a-make-wealth-history-campaign-make-any-sense/#comment-47799</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal Amen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree. Obviously, connoting poverty with a &quot;solution&quot; to anything is all kinds of wrong.

I&#039;m sure those who have *lived* poverty have some interesting and potentially revolutionary perspectives on modern consumerist culture. But you can&#039;t &quot;weekend warrior&quot; your way into that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree. Obviously, connoting poverty with a &#8220;solution&#8221; to anything is all kinds of wrong.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure those who have *lived* poverty have some interesting and potentially revolutionary perspectives on modern consumerist culture. But you can&#8217;t &#8220;weekend warrior&#8221; your way into that.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Schwietert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Schwietert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Eva-- that&#039;s one of many points he overlooks in his article. I think the main problem is he&#039;s conflating way too many ideas and trying to distill them into a single argument. Doesn&#039;t work for me, though. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Eva&#8211; that&#8217;s one of many points he overlooks in his article. I think the main problem is he&#8217;s conflating way too many ideas and trying to distill them into a single argument. Doesn&#8217;t work for me, though. <img src='http://matadornetwork.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. Pardon the snark, but if he thinks the central feature of the poverty experience is &quot;the simple pleasures, such as cards, chess, backgammon, draughts, talking, dancing and playing music” then maybe he needs to take his own advice - and &lt;em&gt;actually&lt;/em&gt; practice being poor. You know, the kind that involves endless shift work at two or three shitty jobs, constant fretting about bills, less-than-ideal nutrition and constantly being condescended to by a-holes who think your life is simple and lovely...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Pardon the snark, but if he thinks the central feature of the poverty experience is &#8220;the simple pleasures, such as cards, chess, backgammon, draughts, talking, dancing and playing music” then maybe he needs to take his own advice &#8211; and <em>actually</em> practice being poor. You know, the kind that involves endless shift work at two or three shitty jobs, constant fretting about bills, less-than-ideal nutrition and constantly being condescended to by a-holes who think your life is simple and lovely&#8230;</p>
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