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	<title>Comments on: New York Media is a Soapbox for Big Oil Propaganda</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Patterson</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/change/new-york-media-is-a-soapbox-for-big-oil-propaganda/#comment-46743</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Josh - but I have to say, I&#039;m going through pretty serious nytimes.com withdrawal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Josh &#8211; but I have to say, I&#8217;m going through pretty serious nytimes.com withdrawal.</p>
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		<title>By: joshywashington</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/change/new-york-media-is-a-soapbox-for-big-oil-propaganda/#comment-46742</link>
		<dc:creator>joshywashington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, I really appreciate the links to other new sources.. a good example of not just exposing the problem but offering an alternative.  Your reporting and writing are always spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, I really appreciate the links to other new sources.. a good example of not just exposing the problem but offering an alternative.  Your reporting and writing are always spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Patterson</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/change/new-york-media-is-a-soapbox-for-big-oil-propaganda/#comment-46756</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the publications involved are run by extremely competent, selfless and professional journalists.  The problem is that the institutions are no longer economically viable and their management would do just anything to help the bottom line.

The great democratization of media means we&#039;ll hear a lot more voices - it will be interesting to see how many of these voices take money to promote dirty energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the publications involved are run by extremely competent, selfless and professional journalists.  The problem is that the institutions are no longer economically viable and their management would do just anything to help the bottom line.</p>
<p>The great democratization of media means we&#8217;ll hear a lot more voices &#8211; it will be interesting to see how many of these voices take money to promote dirty energy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Patterson</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/change/new-york-media-is-a-soapbox-for-big-oil-propaganda/#comment-47285</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the note, Kat.

Although I respect the slippery slope argument about editorial value judgments, I think there is a clear moral line that must be drawn, especially on a massive public health issue like this one. 

Did you know a classmate of ours was just arrested for picketing a coal plant in West Virginia?  For many Americans, our reliance on coal is a life and death issue, and we need to fight on the right side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the note, Kat.</p>
<p>Although I respect the slippery slope argument about editorial value judgments, I think there is a clear moral line that must be drawn, especially on a massive public health issue like this one. </p>
<p>Did you know a classmate of ours was just arrested for picketing a coal plant in West Virginia?  For many Americans, our reliance on coal is a life and death issue, and we need to fight on the right side.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat B</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/change/new-york-media-is-a-soapbox-for-big-oil-propaganda/#comment-47284</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim,

Thanks for the article - enjoyed it and also enjoyed revisiting the links at the end of the piece. I agree with your general sentiments and your surprise regarding the messages in some prominent papers&#039; advertising campaigns, but how do you suggest that newspapers and other media sources make value judgements regarding the &#039;truth&#039; behind their advertisers&#039; campaigns? I would argue that this is a slippery slope. 

I&#039;ve also been surprised to see many of the CSR campaigns which emerge from the bigger oil companies (and car companies for that matter) but think that greenwashing is a reality of the market right now and struggle to imagine a defining line for the &#039;common sense morals&#039; in advertising you suggest. Perhaps this is simplifying the issues, but I would argue that it would be wiser for papers to look into some of these campaigns through investigative journalism and features writing. Agreed that it&#039;s certainly wise for angry readers to express concern on the opinons pages and via newspapers&#039; ombudsmen, but I don&#039;t see a straight advertising boycott as the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim,</p>
<p>Thanks for the article &#8211; enjoyed it and also enjoyed revisiting the links at the end of the piece. I agree with your general sentiments and your surprise regarding the messages in some prominent papers&#8217; advertising campaigns, but how do you suggest that newspapers and other media sources make value judgements regarding the &#8216;truth&#8217; behind their advertisers&#8217; campaigns? I would argue that this is a slippery slope. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also been surprised to see many of the CSR campaigns which emerge from the bigger oil companies (and car companies for that matter) but think that greenwashing is a reality of the market right now and struggle to imagine a defining line for the &#8216;common sense morals&#8217; in advertising you suggest. Perhaps this is simplifying the issues, but I would argue that it would be wiser for papers to look into some of these campaigns through investigative journalism and features writing. Agreed that it&#8217;s certainly wise for angry readers to express concern on the opinons pages and via newspapers&#8217; ombudsmen, but I don&#8217;t see a straight advertising boycott as the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Patterson</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/change/new-york-media-is-a-soapbox-for-big-oil-propaganda/#comment-46760</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, maybe the first step is to contact their editorial boards and let them know about your concerns...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, maybe the first step is to contact their editorial boards and let them know about your concerns&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carlo</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/change/new-york-media-is-a-soapbox-for-big-oil-propaganda/#comment-46759</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I should also throw in a don&#039;t get me wrong too. I was referring to big media in general. I don&#039;t follow the Time, New Yorker, or Harpers...but with your glowing endorsement, perhaps I should. Just not now, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I should also throw in a don&#8217;t get me wrong too. I was referring to big media in general. I don&#8217;t follow the Time, New Yorker, or Harpers&#8230;but with your glowing endorsement, perhaps I should. Just not now, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Patterson</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/change/new-york-media-is-a-soapbox-for-big-oil-propaganda/#comment-46758</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me wrong - I think the Times, The New Yorker and Harpers are all fine institutions.  They DON&#039;T take the PR pieces.  Instead, they&#039;re among only a few media companies that consistently produce really high-quality journalism.

But when the left hand and right hand are working at opposite ends, nothing good can get done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong &#8211; I think the Times, The New Yorker and Harpers are all fine institutions.  They DON&#8217;T take the PR pieces.  Instead, they&#8217;re among only a few media companies that consistently produce really high-quality journalism.</p>
<p>But when the left hand and right hand are working at opposite ends, nothing good can get done.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Patterson</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/change/new-york-media-is-a-soapbox-for-big-oil-propaganda/#comment-46753</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment - you&#039;re exactly right that we need to contact the folks who are letting this happen.  

Here&#039;s info. for the NY Times public editor:

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/thepubliceditor/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment &#8211; you&#8217;re exactly right that we need to contact the folks who are letting this happen.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s info. for the NY Times public editor:</p>
<p><a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/thepubliceditor/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/thepubliceditor/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the sad sad truth. Also, it&#039;s easy for them, they just take the PR ready-to-run pieces and go with it. Less labor costs=more money in their pockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the sad sad truth. Also, it&#8217;s easy for them, they just take the PR ready-to-run pieces and go with it. Less labor costs=more money in their pockets.</p>
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