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		<title>By: hahahoho</title>
		<link>http://matadornetwork.com/goods/9-facts-about-micro-four-thirds-cameras/#comment-66548</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They say that they can make lighter and smaller lenses with the same performance by reducing the backfocus distance

That is so stupid...just by making the sensor smaller the lens will be sharper across the frame at lower F#s. You *instantly* improve the relative performance of the lens. The only thing they do by doing this is make the body a little thinner, and perhaps the lens a little smaller and lighter, but now you have to stop down just as much if not more to get the same sharpness across the frame, so the only optical benefit is weight but in exchange for that you&#039;re using a smaller sensor reduced pixel count or more diffraction and in any case more noise at every ISO

Overall just a worse camera

And that&#039;s hy you don&#039;t see a wholesale move from subframes or even fullframes to 4/3rds. 

On the other hand you don&#039;t see a move from point &amp; shoots to micro 4/3rds because every problem and every *benefit* with 4/3rds is already in the point &amp; shoot market. They just had to put faster glass on the point &amp; shoots and they&#039;re back to square 1. In the long run it&#039;s a dead market for those simple reasons. On one hand they&#039;re nothing more than overgrown point &amp; shoots, on the other they are just slightly-shrunken, noisy, low-resolution DSLRs with no mirrors. If weight is really an issue you&#039;ll just get a point &amp; shoot, if IQ is your main concern you&#039;ll sling a fullframe DSLR &amp; put up with the size &amp; weight, or at least get an APS-C sized mirrorless camera.

4/3rds is a domestic-made electric car in a world full of mopeds, buses, subways and quality gas-powered imports. Losing the mirror is one thing but the sensor is both too small and not small enough.  Just as electric cars use cheap power but cost way too much and take too long to recharge.  4/3rdss cameras are not small enough to fit in a normal pocket with a good lens and they are not large enough to have IQ that&#039;s much better than a good p&amp;s. You  might as well just buy a good p&amp;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They say that they can make lighter and smaller lenses with the same performance by reducing the backfocus distance</p>
<p>That is so stupid&#8230;just by making the sensor smaller the lens will be sharper across the frame at lower F#s. You *instantly* improve the relative performance of the lens. The only thing they do by doing this is make the body a little thinner, and perhaps the lens a little smaller and lighter, but now you have to stop down just as much if not more to get the same sharpness across the frame, so the only optical benefit is weight but in exchange for that you&#8217;re using a smaller sensor reduced pixel count or more diffraction and in any case more noise at every ISO</p>
<p>Overall just a worse camera</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s hy you don&#8217;t see a wholesale move from subframes or even fullframes to 4/3rds. </p>
<p>On the other hand you don&#8217;t see a move from point &amp; shoots to micro 4/3rds because every problem and every *benefit* with 4/3rds is already in the point &amp; shoot market. They just had to put faster glass on the point &amp; shoots and they&#8217;re back to square 1. In the long run it&#8217;s a dead market for those simple reasons. On one hand they&#8217;re nothing more than overgrown point &amp; shoots, on the other they are just slightly-shrunken, noisy, low-resolution DSLRs with no mirrors. If weight is really an issue you&#8217;ll just get a point &amp; shoot, if IQ is your main concern you&#8217;ll sling a fullframe DSLR &amp; put up with the size &amp; weight, or at least get an APS-C sized mirrorless camera.</p>
<p>4/3rds is a domestic-made electric car in a world full of mopeds, buses, subways and quality gas-powered imports. Losing the mirror is one thing but the sensor is both too small and not small enough.  Just as electric cars use cheap power but cost way too much and take too long to recharge.  4/3rdss cameras are not small enough to fit in a normal pocket with a good lens and they are not large enough to have IQ that&#8217;s much better than a good p&amp;s. You  might as well just buy a good p&amp;s.</p>
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		<title>By: hahahoho</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...the much smarter thing would have been to support an established mfgs mount, the F mount would have been an excellent choice as it would then work with all of Nikon&#039;s lenses, at least the AF-S and AF-I lenses. 

Canon likewise, it would take any EF-S or EF lens
Sony, any alpha lens

these were no-brainer choices

There&#039;s virtually no benefit at all to micro 4/3rds in terms of a lens-mount. 
Saving a quarter-inch in backfocus distance is easily made up for by the wider diameter of the lens. I&#039;d take that over a shorter backfocus distance any day of the week. Nothing better than putting a fullframe lens on a subframe camera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;the much smarter thing would have been to support an established mfgs mount, the F mount would have been an excellent choice as it would then work with all of Nikon&#8217;s lenses, at least the AF-S and AF-I lenses. </p>
<p>Canon likewise, it would take any EF-S or EF lens<br />
Sony, any alpha lens</p>
<p>these were no-brainer choices</p>
<p>There&#8217;s virtually no benefit at all to micro 4/3rds in terms of a lens-mount.<br />
Saving a quarter-inch in backfocus distance is easily made up for by the wider diameter of the lens. I&#8217;d take that over a shorter backfocus distance any day of the week. Nothing better than putting a fullframe lens on a subframe camera.</p>
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		<title>By: hahahoho</title>
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		<dc:creator>hahahoho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the &quot;open format&quot; is nonsense for several reasons I won&#039;t even bother to go into here

The main benefit for it is for the mfgs, who can lean on each other to bring lenses to market. It&#039;s a desperate move for fringe-market players, as the obvious downside is that you make the camera but can&#039;t sell glass for it. 

Meanwhile Nikon Canon and Sony will continue on their merry way making and selling cameras that take all their legacy lenses, or at least their CPU lenses. You didn&#039;t see Sony switch to a micro 4/3rds mount for their new NEX cameras, for that reason and a bunch of others. Soon enough Panasonic will take the mount one way and Olympus will take it another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the &#8220;open format&#8221; is nonsense for several reasons I won&#8217;t even bother to go into here</p>
<p>The main benefit for it is for the mfgs, who can lean on each other to bring lenses to market. It&#8217;s a desperate move for fringe-market players, as the obvious downside is that you make the camera but can&#8217;t sell glass for it. </p>
<p>Meanwhile Nikon Canon and Sony will continue on their merry way making and selling cameras that take all their legacy lenses, or at least their CPU lenses. You didn&#8217;t see Sony switch to a micro 4/3rds mount for their new NEX cameras, for that reason and a bunch of others. Soon enough Panasonic will take the mount one way and Olympus will take it another.</p>
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		<title>By: hahahoho</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sure there&#039;s a downside to them
They are noisy compared to DSLRs with larger sensors at the same ISO, they have the same problem in that they need to be stopped-down significantly for sharp shots across the frame (vs the average p&amp;s which is just fine to shoot wide-open and will still give sharp shots across the frame) and they still are not really all that small, or cheap. 

They are the worst part of point &amp; shoots combined with the worst part of DSLRs.

and it doesn&#039;t really matter if the lens format is &quot;open&quot; if you only need to buy one lens. If you&#039;re talking multiple lenses then you&#039;re carrying more lens than camera. If 4/3rds camera mfgs are going to make the same lenses anyway what difference doe it make. 15 companies make SD cards, does that mean that you would happily buy any of them and put them in your camera? No. Same with USB, there are only a few mfgs that I would trust for computer peripherals.

With size I really don&#039;t see the issue, even a big old SLR will sling around your neck or shoulders, and regardless of how small the camera is you&#039;re still carrying a camera. Vs &quot;not carrying a camera&quot;.  If it weighs 2kg with a lens that&#039;s one thing, but a 500-600g DSLR and lens isn&#039;t goin to slow anyone down.

A Nikon D3100 or Sony A200 is not going to slow anyone down.
So the only real benefit here is the pancake wide-angle. Once you put a barrel on the front, they are pretty-much all the same.

Cellphones will beat micro 4/3rds in terms of convenience any day of the week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure there&#8217;s a downside to them<br />
They are noisy compared to DSLRs with larger sensors at the same ISO, they have the same problem in that they need to be stopped-down significantly for sharp shots across the frame (vs the average p&amp;s which is just fine to shoot wide-open and will still give sharp shots across the frame) and they still are not really all that small, or cheap. </p>
<p>They are the worst part of point &amp; shoots combined with the worst part of DSLRs.</p>
<p>and it doesn&#8217;t really matter if the lens format is &#8220;open&#8221; if you only need to buy one lens. If you&#8217;re talking multiple lenses then you&#8217;re carrying more lens than camera. If 4/3rds camera mfgs are going to make the same lenses anyway what difference doe it make. 15 companies make SD cards, does that mean that you would happily buy any of them and put them in your camera? No. Same with USB, there are only a few mfgs that I would trust for computer peripherals.</p>
<p>With size I really don&#8217;t see the issue, even a big old SLR will sling around your neck or shoulders, and regardless of how small the camera is you&#8217;re still carrying a camera. Vs &#8220;not carrying a camera&#8221;.  If it weighs 2kg with a lens that&#8217;s one thing, but a 500-600g DSLR and lens isn&#8217;t goin to slow anyone down.</p>
<p>A Nikon D3100 or Sony A200 is not going to slow anyone down.<br />
So the only real benefit here is the pancake wide-angle. Once you put a barrel on the front, they are pretty-much all the same.</p>
<p>Cellphones will beat micro 4/3rds in terms of convenience any day of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: hahahoho</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tis true

it either fits in your pocket or it doesn&#039;t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tis true</p>
<p>it either fits in your pocket or it doesn&#8217;t</p>
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		<title>By: hahahoho</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Even the best built-in zoom lenses on compact cameras can’t shoot wider than 28mm and do not have apertures wider than F/ 2.8. &quot;

Wrong.

even ignoring 0.7x adapters the LX3, LX5, S90 and S95 are 24-70mm effective F2.0 wide-angle with IS. 

Plus Olympus has the XZ-1 which is F1.8 28-120mm effective.

just wrong. 
Every size &amp; weight related benefit of mirrorless 4/3rds also applies to point &amp; shoots And likewise it&#039;s just a matter of time before someone makes a mirrorless fullframe. They are all going to have to deal with the fact that the smaller the sensor, the smaller and lighter the glass can be to get the same optical performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Even the best built-in zoom lenses on compact cameras can’t shoot wider than 28mm and do not have apertures wider than F/ 2.8. &#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong.</p>
<p>even ignoring 0.7x adapters the LX3, LX5, S90 and S95 are 24-70mm effective F2.0 wide-angle with IS. </p>
<p>Plus Olympus has the XZ-1 which is F1.8 28-120mm effective.</p>
<p>just wrong.<br />
Every size &amp; weight related benefit of mirrorless 4/3rds also applies to point &amp; shoots And likewise it&#8217;s just a matter of time before someone makes a mirrorless fullframe. They are all going to have to deal with the fact that the smaller the sensor, the smaller and lighter the glass can be to get the same optical performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Weeks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca Weeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 19:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I +love+ my Nikon DSLR and could never give it up. It is however too big and heavy to keep in my bag all the time, and there&#039;s countless photos that I&#039;ve missed for not having a camera on me (I recently moved to a new country, and am still in the &#039;everything&#039;s new and interesting&#039; phase). I find small point and shoot cameras frustrating due to the lack of control and inability to alter the depth of field in particular. A little Leica, or one of these (if they&#039;re really a more budget-friendly option?) is definitely going on my (very long) wishlist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I +love+ my Nikon DSLR and could never give it up. It is however too big and heavy to keep in my bag all the time, and there&#8217;s countless photos that I&#8217;ve missed for not having a camera on me (I recently moved to a new country, and am still in the &#8216;everything&#8217;s new and interesting&#8217; phase). I find small point and shoot cameras frustrating due to the lack of control and inability to alter the depth of field in particular. A little Leica, or one of these (if they&#8217;re really a more budget-friendly option?) is definitely going on my (very long) wishlist.</p>
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		<title>By: Rune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 19:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a previous owner of Nikon conventional film cameras, I chose the Olympus Four Thirds system and the Olympus E-1 when I finally entered the digital camera world in 2003, followed up with the Olympus E-3. Although the Olympus system is a little bit smaller than “conventional” digital systems from Nikon and Canon, I soon began to realize that the difference wasn’t that big at all, especially if you use professional lenses like the Zuiko 12- 60mm or the Zuiko  7-14mm. My photo bag had more or less the same weight as when my old Nikon’s where put in! When Panasonic released their Micro Four Thirds system, I soon bought the Panasonic DMC G1 summer 2009, followed up by the GH1 later on. The main reason for this purchase was reduced weight and size.  I very much have liked to appreciate these wonderful cameras! Although I also possess a Pentax K-7 for demanding (wet/ cold) situations, it is still the Panasonic’s which is used most of the time. Why is this? Well, here is my point of view: 
-	If you don’t regularly need to use high ISO beyond 1250, the picture quality is as good as any digital camera on the marked. 
-	Fast and very reliable focus and AE-system
-	Reduced size and weight!! Cannot be valued enough. My photo bag is now a joy to carry around. 
-	Intuitive handling and possibilities! I don’t miss anything from my other cameras which I cannot do with the Panasonic’s, except demanding sports/ actions scenes where you need speed beyond 3,5 frames a second. 
-	A system for the future! As this is an open standard, the system will continue to grow, offering several new lenses and other equipment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a previous owner of Nikon conventional film cameras, I chose the Olympus Four Thirds system and the Olympus E-1 when I finally entered the digital camera world in 2003, followed up with the Olympus E-3. Although the Olympus system is a little bit smaller than “conventional” digital systems from Nikon and Canon, I soon began to realize that the difference wasn’t that big at all, especially if you use professional lenses like the Zuiko 12- 60mm or the Zuiko  7-14mm. My photo bag had more or less the same weight as when my old Nikon’s where put in! When Panasonic released their Micro Four Thirds system, I soon bought the Panasonic DMC G1 summer 2009, followed up by the GH1 later on. The main reason for this purchase was reduced weight and size.  I very much have liked to appreciate these wonderful cameras! Although I also possess a Pentax K-7 for demanding (wet/ cold) situations, it is still the Panasonic’s which is used most of the time. Why is this? Well, here is my point of view:<br />
-	If you don’t regularly need to use high ISO beyond 1250, the picture quality is as good as any digital camera on the marked.<br />
-	Fast and very reliable focus and AE-system<br />
-	Reduced size and weight!! Cannot be valued enough. My photo bag is now a joy to carry around.<br />
-	Intuitive handling and possibilities! I don’t miss anything from my other cameras which I cannot do with the Panasonic’s, except demanding sports/ actions scenes where you need speed beyond 3,5 frames a second.<br />
-	A system for the future! As this is an open standard, the system will continue to grow, offering several new lenses and other equipment.</p>
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		<title>By: traveling_mike</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a bit saddened that these came out when they did as I also just bought my DSLR.  I love the size of these cameras.  

But here&#039;s the deal.  I am sure these are good for what you say, but you dont list any negative points.  Surely there must be somethings that dont jive.  In other words, are there any cons to these cameras?  The people need to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a bit saddened that these came out when they did as I also just bought my DSLR.  I love the size of these cameras.  </p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the deal.  I am sure these are good for what you say, but you dont list any negative points.  Surely there must be somethings that dont jive.  In other words, are there any cons to these cameras?  The people need to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Justruss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justruss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 13:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Blair.  I just got my GF1 and played with it for a few days in Prague.  It&#039;s perfect for travel with the 14-45 lens.  

Thanks for the article Ryan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Blair.  I just got my GF1 and played with it for a few days in Prague.  It&#8217;s perfect for travel with the 14-45 lens.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the article Ryan.</p>
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